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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2009, 01:32:42 AM » |
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Proper black & white images were until recently preferred by the print media to colour images as colour reduced to black & white tends to come out rather smudgy, like the non-grayscaled images on that page (nowadays, everything is just printed in colour anyway so it's no longer an issue). B/w film processing was more expensive than colour (it used silver, apparently) so apart from professionals and artistry type photography (such as the Wad & Clare pics), everyone by '77 used colour. It's not just the (silver based) processing, it's the way the camera is configured before the imagery is taken. A badly taken photograph will always be smudgy (vis: out of focus, bad depth of field, poor tonal qualities) but you're right in so much as people are seduced by colour and don't notice the other stuff until the colour is stripped away. (You can always tell a mediocre photographer by photocopying a picture of theirs and see what tonal change there is, or isn't as the case may be). Our photography department still teaches silver based processing to everyone from A level students to undergraduate, I'm proud to say. Mind you, we do have a couple of medium format cameras with digital backs and the quality is jaw dropping. |
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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2009, 05:28:37 AM » |
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2009, 09:20:18 AM » |
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Also the camera used could have been something like a C110 rather than a 35mm and the image is grainy no matter what (but that argument is short lived as I don't think that they did C110 B/W film)
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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2009, 02:55:56 PM » |
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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2009, 12:19:49 AM » |
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To simplify all this:
No-one by '77 would have bothered with b/w unless the plan was for it to be printed in a newspaper or a non-glossy professional magazine.
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« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2009, 12:32:10 AM » |
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To simplify all this:
No-one by '77 would have bothered with b/w unless the plan was for it to be printed in a newspaper or a non-glossy professional magazine. So that would mean all the freelance and contracted photographers who did work for the NME, Sounds, Melody Maker, the relatively new Broadsheet Sunday supplements, Evening Standard, etc. |
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« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2009, 12:44:33 AM » |
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Quite so.
Whereas a fan taking photos would use colour - hence all the Milano '78/Marquee Nov '78/Edinburgh '79 colour pics.
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« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2009, 01:36:27 AM » |
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Oooh I could seriously do a jello shot from that belly button.
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« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2009, 02:23:20 AM » |
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spunk puddles.
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« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2009, 03:01:22 AM » |
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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2009, 09:16:52 AM » |
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Quite so.
Whereas a fan taking photos would use colour - hence all the Milano '78/Marquee Nov '78/Edinburgh '79 colour pics.
I have a few gigs from 78 that are taken in B/W and these were by fans and not for the press. |
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« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2009, 10:08:14 PM » |
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I have a few gigs from 78 that are taken in B/W and these were by fans and not for the press.
by Mick Mercer, for instance? |
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« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2009, 11:19:57 PM » |
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Those as well.
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